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	<description>Australia needs an R18+ rating for video games.</description>
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		<title>By: R18+ Games Australia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Michael Atkinson Explains</title>
		<link>http://www.r18games.com.au/2008/11/michael-atkinson-on-stateline/comment-page-1/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>R18+ Games Australia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Michael Atkinson Explains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we haven&#8217;t seen before of course, but it&#8217;s not unusual for politicians as detached as Mr. Atkinson to rehash old [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Greg Barila</title>
		<link>http://www.r18games.com.au/2008/11/michael-atkinson-on-stateline/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Barila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HGi there, I&#039;ve written a long discussion piece on this issue I thought you might find interesting. It&#039;d be great if you could leave your thoughts and comments on the story. Regards

http://eastern-courier-messenger.whereilive.com.au/news/story/outlook-violent-argument/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HGi there, I&#8217;ve written a long discussion piece on this issue I thought you might find interesting. It&#8217;d be great if you could leave your thoughts and comments on the story. Regards</p>
<p><a href="http://eastern-courier-messenger.whereilive.com.au/news/story/outlook-violent-argument/" rel="nofollow">http://eastern-courier-messenger.whereilive.com.au/news/story/outlook-violent-argument/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://www.r18games.com.au/2008/11/michael-atkinson-on-stateline/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 00:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Atkinson&#039;s logic is so flawed. The fact that he blocks a R-18 rating is actually allowing the violent games he dislikes into the hands of the children he wants to &quot;protect&quot; more easily. He really should not use GTA as an example of why Australia should not have the more mature classification when it&#039;s that lack of a classification that allows even younger kids to be exposed to it. A stronger rating would allow for stronger regulations of the sale of said product, and prevent younger children from buying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Atkinson&#8217;s logic is so flawed. The fact that he blocks a R-18 rating is actually allowing the violent games he dislikes into the hands of the children he wants to &#8220;protect&#8221; more easily. He really should not use GTA as an example of why Australia should not have the more mature classification when it&#8217;s that lack of a classification that allows even younger kids to be exposed to it. A stronger rating would allow for stronger regulations of the sale of said product, and prevent younger children from buying.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn A.</title>
		<link>http://www.r18games.com.au/2008/11/michael-atkinson-on-stateline/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 05:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe, (And I speak for most of my viewers) that Mr Atkinson should respect the views of the community and either Step Down as Attorney General or have his veto powers stripped.

This ridiculous charade Mr Atkinson is on must end, it is either going to end in 1 of 3 ways,
â€¢ When Mr Atkinson Steps down or Retires.
â€¢ If My Atkinson&#039;s Veto Powers are stripped.
â€¢ When Mr Atkinson is removed from office.

The Australian Population has the right to decide for it&#039;s self as to what game ratings we should allow into our country, NOT Mr Atkinson!

To Mr Atkinson;
In response to your concern for your children, perhaps you should learn how to moderate your kids use of the computer, and just not let them play these games.

PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE GROUND MR ATKINSON! Australia wants to have the FREEDOM OF CHOICE as to what games we want in our country!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe, (And I speak for most of my viewers) that Mr Atkinson should respect the views of the community and either Step Down as Attorney General or have his veto powers stripped.</p>
<p>This ridiculous charade Mr Atkinson is on must end, it is either going to end in 1 of 3 ways,<br />
â€¢ When Mr Atkinson Steps down or Retires.<br />
â€¢ If My Atkinson&#8217;s Veto Powers are stripped.<br />
â€¢ When Mr Atkinson is removed from office.</p>
<p>The Australian Population has the right to decide for it&#8217;s self as to what game ratings we should allow into our country, NOT Mr Atkinson!</p>
<p>To Mr Atkinson;<br />
In response to your concern for your children, perhaps you should learn how to moderate your kids use of the computer, and just not let them play these games.</p>
<p>PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE GROUND MR ATKINSON! Australia wants to have the FREEDOM OF CHOICE as to what games we want in our country!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.r18games.com.au/2008/11/michael-atkinson-on-stateline/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think the western, industrialised countries that allow R18+ computer games and the extreme violence that goes with them are just so many (?) swine going over the cliff...&quot;

What, like New Zealand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think the western, industrialised countries that allow R18+ computer games and the extreme violence that goes with them are just so many (?) swine going over the cliff&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>What, like New Zealand?</p>
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		<title>By: TBoneTony</title>
		<link>http://www.r18games.com.au/2008/11/michael-atkinson-on-stateline/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>TBoneTony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 11:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is something that I feel what will happen if there is an R18+ rating in Australia.

1. Us Aussie Gamers are still going have to put up with these family groups not liking the R18+ rating and they will still try to call for banning some games even though they have not played them at all.

2. The games we get are games from America that are at the higher end of the M17+ rating from the ESRB being refitted into the OFLC&#039;s R18+. And there are only a small number of games, even though they are significant like Madworld for example, that will be just a minor change but something that will be really good for us Australian Gamers an the Games Industry in Australia not having to worry about the OFLC refusing the classification of our home grown games that appeal for the higher and mature (as in M17+ in American Standards) adult audience.



3. There will be NO GAMES that EVER contain RAPE or Sex scenes that go into Pornographic material. As in they will never reach the kind of material that you will find in an R18+ movie and NEVER the kind of content that is seen in an X rated movie.

4. Even if we go on TV and plainly state that no 2 and 3 of what I have been saying, those family groups will still say their fears and opinions based on their own inexperience of not playing Videogames and they will call us Gamers as savage immoral people for playing games like that. 

There will still be some Politicians will have a field day with us even if we do have an R18+ rating.

But if we do have an R18+ rating for Videogames and we can still chose to buy games that are given an R18+ rating, that would be allot more easier for us than to live in a society that does not have an R18+ rating that treats us like kids.


TBoneTony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is something that I feel what will happen if there is an R18+ rating in Australia.</p>
<p>1. Us Aussie Gamers are still going have to put up with these family groups not liking the R18+ rating and they will still try to call for banning some games even though they have not played them at all.</p>
<p>2. The games we get are games from America that are at the higher end of the M17+ rating from the ESRB being refitted into the OFLC&#8217;s R18+. And there are only a small number of games, even though they are significant like Madworld for example, that will be just a minor change but something that will be really good for us Australian Gamers an the Games Industry in Australia not having to worry about the OFLC refusing the classification of our home grown games that appeal for the higher and mature (as in M17+ in American Standards) adult audience.</p>
<p>3. There will be NO GAMES that EVER contain RAPE or Sex scenes that go into Pornographic material. As in they will never reach the kind of material that you will find in an R18+ movie and NEVER the kind of content that is seen in an X rated movie.</p>
<p>4. Even if we go on TV and plainly state that no 2 and 3 of what I have been saying, those family groups will still say their fears and opinions based on their own inexperience of not playing Videogames and they will call us Gamers as savage immoral people for playing games like that. </p>
<p>There will still be some Politicians will have a field day with us even if we do have an R18+ rating.</p>
<p>But if we do have an R18+ rating for Videogames and we can still chose to buy games that are given an R18+ rating, that would be allot more easier for us than to live in a society that does not have an R18+ rating that treats us like kids.</p>
<p>TBoneTony</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Limburg</title>
		<link>http://www.r18games.com.au/2008/11/michael-atkinson-on-stateline/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Limburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 02:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have to stand up to this sort of insanity.  When one man can hold a strangle hold on debate and rational analysis, where his opinion is enforced through fear, uncertainly and doubt, when our own processes of government are stalled by some non-existant &quot;veto&quot; power .. it&#039;s wrong.

Mr Atkinson&#039;s opinion has allowed kids to legally purchase and play Fallout3 at M15, which is rated R18 in the UK.  Just how is this protecting kids?

The whole thing is a farce, and we need to make *ALL* politians aware of the facts and study.  Make them aware that not only is this about gaming, it&#039;s about an abuse of power.

There are plenty of resources on this site to help us in this fight.  Please, please use them.  Write to your local MP, state or federal.  It doesn&#039;t matter if this is focused on a South Australian MP, this affects every single person in Australia.

If we don&#039;t stop this, we deserve the laws we are &quot;given&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have to stand up to this sort of insanity.  When one man can hold a strangle hold on debate and rational analysis, where his opinion is enforced through fear, uncertainly and doubt, when our own processes of government are stalled by some non-existant &#8220;veto&#8221; power .. it&#8217;s wrong.</p>
<p>Mr Atkinson&#8217;s opinion has allowed kids to legally purchase and play Fallout3 at M15, which is rated R18 in the UK.  Just how is this protecting kids?</p>
<p>The whole thing is a farce, and we need to make *ALL* politians aware of the facts and study.  Make them aware that not only is this about gaming, it&#8217;s about an abuse of power.</p>
<p>There are plenty of resources on this site to help us in this fight.  Please, please use them.  Write to your local MP, state or federal.  It doesn&#8217;t matter if this is focused on a South Australian MP, this affects every single person in Australia.</p>
<p>If we don&#8217;t stop this, we deserve the laws we are &#8220;given&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.r18games.com.au/2008/11/michael-atkinson-on-stateline/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it is the same old story

What right does the goverment(which is simply a body of people, not some miraculous being from outer space) to tell me how to raise my children, or what I can and can&#039;t watch.

BTW 22 years + of gaming and I&#039;m yet to massarce anyone :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it is the same old story</p>
<p>What right does the goverment(which is simply a body of people, not some miraculous being from outer space) to tell me how to raise my children, or what I can and can&#8217;t watch.</p>
<p>BTW 22 years + of gaming and I&#8217;m yet to massarce anyone <img src='http://www.r18games.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.r18games.com.au/2008/11/michael-atkinson-on-stateline/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF is it with aussie politicians riding on the high horse of morality. 
(One look at this guy and its obvious he would break everyone moral for a bit of sexual deviancy or a cash benefits.
We all know what politicians are really like!)

I&#039;m getting really sick of Australia becoming a nanny state, water filtering, internet filtering, and of course this issue..... whats next? its stuff like this that causes mental disorders if you ask me!

Actually what really sickens me is that every single time they pull out the &quot;think of the children&quot; card. When it is blatently obvious that it is not doing anything to protect the children!
E.G.
In Fallout 3 I walk around and blow everyone head apart in any manner I want. Yet the games is MA15, meaning children can access it.
But if drugs are in it &quot;oh no, ban it&quot;  - if you ask me thats lunacy.

YOU ARE NOT PROTECTING THE CHILDREN YOU IDIOTS! MERELY USING THIS EXCUSE AS A WAY OF FORCING THIS ONE SIZE FITS ALL BS ON US.

What ever happened to parents looking after their children, and being responsible for their actions - EDUCATION NOT CENSORSHIP.

Excellent article, when you break down its apparant that he has no idea what he is talking about, and yet he&#039;s nice enough to force this on all of us.
There are so many holes and things that just don&#039;t make any sense in this system, its hard to believe its actually true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF is it with aussie politicians riding on the high horse of morality.<br />
(One look at this guy and its obvious he would break everyone moral for a bit of sexual deviancy or a cash benefits.<br />
We all know what politicians are really like!)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting really sick of Australia becoming a nanny state, water filtering, internet filtering, and of course this issue&#8230;.. whats next? its stuff like this that causes mental disorders if you ask me!</p>
<p>Actually what really sickens me is that every single time they pull out the &#8220;think of the children&#8221; card. When it is blatently obvious that it is not doing anything to protect the children!<br />
E.G.<br />
In Fallout 3 I walk around and blow everyone head apart in any manner I want. Yet the games is MA15, meaning children can access it.<br />
But if drugs are in it &#8220;oh no, ban it&#8221;  &#8211; if you ask me thats lunacy.</p>
<p>YOU ARE NOT PROTECTING THE CHILDREN YOU IDIOTS! MERELY USING THIS EXCUSE AS A WAY OF FORCING THIS ONE SIZE FITS ALL BS ON US.</p>
<p>What ever happened to parents looking after their children, and being responsible for their actions &#8211; EDUCATION NOT CENSORSHIP.</p>
<p>Excellent article, when you break down its apparant that he has no idea what he is talking about, and yet he&#8217;s nice enough to force this on all of us.<br />
There are so many holes and things that just don&#8217;t make any sense in this system, its hard to believe its actually true!</p>
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